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mcovalsk
11-05-2007, 06:30 AM
A matter that always had in mind was, are the bodies in scale?.
Now after a little research I discovered that the Hilux was 1/10 scale as well as the Sand scorcher, the Blazing Blazer between 1/10 and 1/11 and For 350 as well as Clod aren't in 1/10. Did you see a actual Ford 350?, the scale of the kit looks to be between 1/11 and 1/12.

What do you think I would like to heard opinions.

offroadford4x4
11-05-2007, 07:59 AM
true scale varries alot betwen the bodies. The highlift/juggy F350 bodies are probably between 13 & 14th scale, I state this cause the kingblackfoot and blackfoot extreme bodies actually measure out to a 12.33 :1 scale to their full size counter parts (I have a 1:1 Ford in that style and measured and calculated it out) and my F150 is actually small compared to the real F350s but but the kbf/bfx bodies are the same size as the HL/jugg body.

Basicly the scales are generic and only refer to basic chassis size. Look at TCs, they all are the same size (bodies vary a tiny bit but not much) but in the real world, a honda civic or prelude ain't the same size as a mustang or 70s cuda. And TCs compare to trucks, thats is way off. My HPI TC mustang is the same length and wider than the HL/jugg body but yet both are classified as 10th scale

mcovalsk
11-05-2007, 02:39 PM
Thanks for the answer. I knew for sure, just Tamiya never said officialy, but of course a 1/10 F350 would be a large RC model.
I just was curios about what other poeple thing.
Cheers

chucky
11-09-2007, 04:08 AM
I have a theory too. i think its sounds plausible. They are all based on a single wheel/tyre size so each different car would be scaled to that single wheel. for example, the origional mini cooper etc had a 10" rim on a 1:1 scale but the F350 has 17"-18" rims, the semi's have 22"? but on the models they all use a 1.9. So the actual body would be scaled to the 1.9 rim size more than the 1:1 vehicle body. If they were all scaled to the 1:1 body then they would have to make scale rims and tryes from 10" up to 22". You could imagine the cost for tooling such a range of sizes! I guess, what would you rather? each body scaled to the right size and not having any options for different wheels and tyres or a virtually unlimited choice of wheels/tyres and the scale being abit out?
Also the width of vehicle are different so if they did it to body scale you would probably only have a choice of 3 or 4 vehicles due to cost the of tooling different chassis sizes. How many different body shells can you get today that fit the same chassis? TT-01 for example?
Thats my two cents worth, what other opinions does every one have? Please share with us your thoughts.

paintstikker
12-14-2007, 10:49 PM
I have a theory too. i think its sounds plausible. They are all based on a single wheel/tyre size so each different car would be scaled to that single wheel. for example, the origional mini cooper etc had a 10" rim on a 1:1 scale but the F350 has 17"-18" rims, the semi's have 22"? but on the models they all use a 1.9. So the actual body would be scaled to the 1.9 rim size more than the 1:1 vehicle body. If they were all scaled to the 1:1 body then they would have to make scale rims and tryes from 10" up to 22". You could imagine the cost for tooling such a range of sizes! I guess, what would you rather? each body scaled to the right size and not having any options for different wheels and tyres or a virtually unlimited choice of wheels/tyres and the scale being abit out?
Also the width of vehicle are different so if they did it to body scale you would probably only have a choice of 3 or 4 vehicles due to cost the of tooling different chassis sizes. How many different body shells can you get today that fit the same chassis? TT-01 for example?
Thats my two cents worth, what other opinions does every one have? Please share with us your thoughts.

The F350 Highlift has 1.9" rims, so in 1:1 scale you would find 19" wheels. That's somewhat an odd size, being a standard "off road" style tread's ID on a US pickup is from 15" to 18" and then it jumps to 20's from there.

In regards to an F350 body, the Tamiya body measures in at 9.5" BBC, which would make a 7.916' on a 1:1 model. My F250 measures at around 9' BBC This would make the Highlift body in 1/12th scale, but the tires are in 10th. We don't really know what size the Highlift tires are supposed to portray, but if it's the std. 15-17 in. the tires would be in 1/10 as they should be 1.5" in 1/12th. I can't seem to describe the point I'm trying to get to, but then again it's 11PM and I've been working all day...

Anyway, a standard US OTR semi has 11"x24.5" tires, I've noted that Tamiya marks 11x22.5 on their tires. That size is in general to some military size wheels, and may be used on vehicles not indigenous to North America. My M35's military treads have 9.00 R20 markings, though one tire I've been supplied with is a retread and the sidewall used is from a Goodyear OTR tire with markings of 11x24.5.

This shows the standard US semi being supplied with 24.5 ID tires, my military semi using 20" ID tires (though the retread marks 24.5, so....?) and the Tamiya semis use an odd-size 22.5" ID. Of course, I don't know much about non-North America vehicles, so it may be the standard in Europe & Asia. Of course I'm going off topic of the pickups and going into the semis, but if the ID of the Tamiya semi's wheels is 1.9" and is has the marking of 22.5, then it would make the semis in an actual 1/12th scale. But since the "US" style bodies are somewhat generic, there is nothing to base off of to find the scale of the body.